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Welcome to the AI in Education podcast With Dan Bowen and Ray Fleming. It's a weekly chat about Artificial Intelligence in Education for educators and education leaders. Also available through Apple Podcasts and Spotify. "This podcast is co-hosted by an employee of Microsoft Australia & New Zealand, but all the views and opinions expressed on this podcast are their own.”

Oct 16, 2025

In this week’s episode of the AI and Education Podcast, Ray and Dan dive into one of the most chaotic – and entertaining – weeks in AI news so far. From councils losing millions to AI-powered scams to the idea of having a “family safe word,” this one swings between hilarious and hair-raising.

They unpack what’s new in AI assessment research - including TEQSA’s AI guidance for universities, the “wicked problem” of AI and assessment, and why Turnitin’s detection tools are under fire (again). You’ll hear how South Australia’s EdChat report shows teachers and students deepening their learning with AI, and which countries are quietly leading the world in classroom AI use (spoiler: it’s not who you think).

Plus, a few surprise stats on politeness and prompt-writing - turns out being rude to AI might actually get better results.

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Links to news items discussed

AI Safety
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-10-14/noosa-council-scam-mayor-blames-ai-imitation/105887962 

Mike Tholfsen's Microsoft 365 Copilot Tutorial
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbOJliF-Cn4 


South Australia's Edchat Insights Report
https://www.education.sa.gov.au/docs/ict/edchat-insights-report.pdf 

Enacting assessment reform in a time of artificial intelligence
 https://www.teqsa.gov.au/guides-resources/resources/corporate-publications/enacting-assessment-reform-time-artificial-intelligence    
And the link to 'Assessment reform for the age of artificial intelligence' - https://www.teqsa.gov.au/guides-resources/resources/corporate-publications/assessment-reform-age-artificial-intelligence  

Syracuse University gives Claude Education to all students and staff
https://news.syr.edu/2025/09/22/syracuse-university-among-first-universities-to-provide-campuswide-ai-access-to-anthropics-claude-for-education/

Jordan - the whole country, one man chat app for education
https://x.com/cryptoprio/status/1974040334737846279?s=46&t=p57lLRpTCXGNBiwhIjsl7Q 

California Community Colleges also rolling out Nectir to staff and students
https://www.axios.com/local/san-francisco/2025/10/06/california-community-colleges-ai-nectir-tutors 

2025 "State of AI" report
https://www.stateof.ai/ 

Oxford University Press report on AI use by UK school students
https://fdslive.oup.com/www.oup.com/oxed/secondary/Teaching_the_AI_Native_Generation.pdf?internal=true 

OECD’s latest Teaching and Learning International Survey
https://www.oecd.org/en/publications/results-from-talis-2024_90df6235-en.html 

University wrongly accuses students of using artificial intelligence to cheat
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-10-09/artificial-intelligence-cheating-australian-catholic-university/105863524

ACU's checklist for spotting AI written text:
https://staff.acu.edu.au/our_university/news/2025/march/turnitin-ai-indicator-tool 

And in researching this, I also stumbled across the Wikipedia page "Signs of AI Writing"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Signs_of_AI_writing 
And that includes things like "LLMs overuse the rule of three - 'the good, the bad and the ugly'"; the use of Title Case; and our old friends em dashes and emojis. And if you really want to go down the rabbit hole, read the 'Talk' tab on that page, were people are discussing their own opinions/beliefs on this.


Research

The wicked problem of AI and assessment
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/02602938.2025.2553340 

Reimagining the Artificial Intelligence Assessment Scale: A refined framework for educational assessment
https://open-publishing.org/journals/index.php/jutlp/article/view/1707 

Assessment Twins: A Protocol for AI-Vulnerable Summative Assessment
https://arxiv.org/abs/2510.02929 

Heads we win, tails you lose: AI detectors in education.
https://osf.io/preprints/edarxiv/93w6j_v1 


What Does YouTube Advise Students About Bypassing AIText Detection Tools? A Pragmatic Analysis
https://link.springer.com/epdf/10.1007/s10805-025-09675-3? sharing_token=kzKMqOrKt2K7wqe8A4GjkPe4RwlQNchNByi7wbcMAY4_QVVFXJUooOb6QsKcPKSMAsHQtQeY4Cum-OXBICfYzSVfT9TAv2Z95XVx8D3vm13plNOq1vh5iCbse0XidDrUCW182PR7BzDUTrlz7Gv1UGB5U-ao_gJKy9vc-WRHd_U%3D 

Mind Your Tone: Investigating How Prompt Politeness Affects LLM Accuracy
https://arxiv.org/abs/2510.04950